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		<title>By: sverrebm</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So your point is that in Watchmen (and ID4), we&#039;re talking about an enemy external to mankind which only has a similar method to that of the Al-Quaida, and that it is the nature of the enemy not its method that is the vital point?

If that&#039;s what you meant, I&#039;d say it makes sense and I have to concede that point.

As Al-Quaida as an enemy external to the US but not external to the world, it makes sense that it made the US (and possibly Britain) unite, but not entire world, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So your point is that in Watchmen (and ID4), we&#8217;re talking about an enemy external to mankind which only has a similar method to that of the Al-Quaida, and that it is the nature of the enemy not its method that is the vital point?</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s what you meant, I&#8217;d say it makes sense and I have to concede that point.</p>
<p>As Al-Quaida as an enemy external to the US but not external to the world, it makes sense that it made the US (and possibly Britain) unite, but not entire world, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Torbjørn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*spoiler alert* Do not read on, if you want to read/see Watchmen! :)


The whole premise of Watchmen and ID4 is that of an external enemy to humankind, a threat that doesn&#039;t distinguish between borders, politics, religion and perhaps is not even susceptible to our type of logic. Terrorism can not be said to fall into this category for several reasons.

I guess your point is that the great powers (btw, who is that?) will unite in seeing terrorism as a common enemy. But isn&#039;t it wrong to say that terrorism is something definite? The act of terrorism is a method, but it says nothing of the who and why. It&#039;s kinda like saying guns are the enemy, not the people using them.

However, one can argue that this way of looking at terrorism is actually the one prevalent. Why? Because the main effort into stopping terrorism is increased use of surveillance. Rather than stopping people from doing terror acts altogether, we intend to stop them before they actually manage to do them. We are more focused to stopping their action, than changing their intention.

On the other hand, I&#039;m not going to go Gandhi here, and say, hey, let them do their terror. But I think its important to remember the difference. I do not like the tendency, especially in the States, that basic rights are thrown out the window in search for terrorist. You don&#039;t have to be a genius to understand that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*spoiler alert* Do not read on, if you want to read/see Watchmen! <img src='http://polemarchus.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The whole premise of Watchmen and ID4 is that of an external enemy to humankind, a threat that doesn&#8217;t distinguish between borders, politics, religion and perhaps is not even susceptible to our type of logic. Terrorism can not be said to fall into this category for several reasons.</p>
<p>I guess your point is that the great powers (btw, who is that?) will unite in seeing terrorism as a common enemy. But isn&#8217;t it wrong to say that terrorism is something definite? The act of terrorism is a method, but it says nothing of the who and why. It&#8217;s kinda like saying guns are the enemy, not the people using them.</p>
<p>However, one can argue that this way of looking at terrorism is actually the one prevalent. Why? Because the main effort into stopping terrorism is increased use of surveillance. Rather than stopping people from doing terror acts altogether, we intend to stop them before they actually manage to do them. We are more focused to stopping their action, than changing their intention.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#8217;m not going to go Gandhi here, and say, hey, let them do their terror. But I think its important to remember the difference. I do not like the tendency, especially in the States, that basic rights are thrown out the window in search for terrorist. You don&#8217;t have to be a genius to understand that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.</p>
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		<title>By: sverrebm</title>
		<link>http://polemarchus.net/2008/11/watchmen/comment-page-1/#comment-42</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what is it about the psychological theory behind the ending of Watchmen that separates it so entirely from 9/11? It appears to me to be exactly the same, even if the idea behind them were presumably quite the opposite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what is it about the psychological theory behind the ending of Watchmen that separates it so entirely from 9/11? It appears to me to be exactly the same, even if the idea behind them were presumably quite the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: Torbjørn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 05:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If the theory behind the ending of Watchmen was correct, we could expect the new threat of global terrorism make the great powers unite in peace and prosperity against this common enemy.&quot;

I&#039;d say that the logic involved in Watchmen rules out any comparison with 9/11. Although the logic rests on a sound psychological principle, you&#039;d be hard pressed to show that terrorism fits under the criteria. I believe its not that difficult to prove the opposite in fact, since USA reacted very different than the rest of the western world in response to 9/11.

Hi btw! :)</description>
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<p>I&#8217;d say that the logic involved in Watchmen rules out any comparison with 9/11. Although the logic rests on a sound psychological principle, you&#8217;d be hard pressed to show that terrorism fits under the criteria. I believe its not that difficult to prove the opposite in fact, since USA reacted very different than the rest of the western world in response to 9/11.</p>
<p>Hi btw! <img src='http://polemarchus.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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