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		<title>Gore and Wolfowitz on Anwar Trial</title>
		<link>http://polemarchus.net/2010/08/04/gore-and-wolfowitz-on-anwar-trial/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Wall street Journal today published a joint editorial by Al Gore and Paul Wolfowitz  ((Hidden behind paywall at WSJ, so I&#8217;m linking to Lim Kit Siang&#8217;s publication of the entire piece)) regarding the trial against Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim. This trial is the latest in a series of various legal actions most likely politically motivated and engineered [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://polemarchus.net/files/2008/08/anwarmahathir.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-25" src="http://polemarchus.net/files/2008/08/anwarmahathir1.jpg" alt="" /></a><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703545604575407213095238970.html">The Wall street Journal </a>today published a joint <a href="http://blog.limkitsiang.com/2010/08/04/malaysias-opposition-on-trial/">editorial by Al Gore and Paul Wolfowitz </a> ((Hidden behind paywall at WSJ, so I&#8217;m linking to Lim Kit Siang&#8217;s publication of the entire piece)) regarding the trial against Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim. This trial is the latest in a series of various legal actions most likely politically motivated and engineered by the Malaysian establishment to keep him out of Malaysian politics.</p>
<p>Gore and Wolfowitz, pretty far apart in domestic politics have come together in their condemnation and call for action by the American government. They also display some insight into matters in Malaysia and Anwar Ibrahim. Matters in Malaysia are by no means entirely black and white, but the heart of the matter is that abuse of judicial power to undermine democracy is wrong no matter what. <span id="more-495"></span>As they formulate it:</p>
<blockquote><p>Our views of Anwar Ibrahim have been formed completely independently of each other. We do not always agree with his views on foreign policy, but we do agree that as a political leader, statesman and intellectual, Mr. Anwar possesses qualities that encourage hope for the future. These qualities include lucidity and openness to debate and engagement; commitment to principles of accountability and good governance; and a serious concern for the future of his country and the world—not to mention his extraordinary courage in standing up for what he believes. We are convinced that he is committed to the values of pluralism, tolerance and freedom that are needed for Malaysia to flourish.In the end, what matters is not our opinion of Mr. Anwar’s character, but the opinion of his fellow countrymen. Malaysians should decide for themselves, through an open electoral process, who they wish to lead them. They should not be deprived of that opportunity by an abuse of judicial power.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>On parliamentary censorship in Malaysia and the Jew connection</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sverre</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Malaysia has a parliament and elections, but it is nowehere near being a working democracy. This week they have once again proven this with the censorship of MP and opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t blogged much the past couple of months. It&#8217;s partly because of a busy schedule and partly because of a severe case of writer&#8217;s block. A holiday to my old stomping grounds in Malaysia and Pulau Langkawi where I once attended <em>sekolah menengah</em> (Malaysian high school) has inspired new interest in writing about the country.</p>
<p>Malaysia has a parliament and elections, but it is nowehere near being a working democracy. This week they have once again proven this with the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/04/22/world/international-uk-malaysia-politics-anwar.html?_r=1">censorship of MP and opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim</a>. Anwar now faces possible suspension from parliament over a comment made during one of its sessions. He claimed that the nationalist campaign <em>1Malaysia</em>, intended to boost national unity, is somehow related to Ehud Barak&#8217;s 1999 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Israel">political campaign </a><em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Israel">One Israel</a></em>. The relation is the PR firm APCO that allegedly has been working for the government coalition Barisan Nasional.<span id="more-485"></span></p>
<p>Making connections to Israel is not trivial in Malaysia, a country with a Muslim majority and where religion is frequently politicized. Using a European analogy, this claim is roughly as controversial in Malaysia as if a British MP had claimed that Gordon Brown&#8217;s policies reeked of nazist ideology. It is probably a breach of parliamentary decorum worthy of a reprimand from the Speaker, but definitely not grounds for exclusion from parliament. In a democracy, we have to accept even remarks that we disapprove of. The threat of such extreme sanctions for minor infractions does not make for a climate of open and free discussion necessary for true democracy.</p>
<p>The government coalition has worked hard and played dirty to keep Anwar Ibrahim down. The censure against Anwar fits the trend nicely. As preposterous as the censure is, the remarks themselves clearly show that both sides know how to play that game. I don&#8217;t believe for a second that Anwar actually believes that the 1Malaysia policy is the result of conspiring with Israel. But the mere suggestion is enough to sow doubts in the religious, less educated rural Malaysia. He scores a double point when the government responds with trampling on free speech, aggravating the more secular urban citizens hoping for a more democratic Malaysia.</p>
<p>That both sides play dirty should surprise very few. It is also understandable that the opposition is willing to stoop to that level given that their opponents have the draconian arsenal of the government at their disposal. Perhaps they even have to in order to survive. But is this a good starting point for building a more vital Malaysian democracy? We can only hope that the level of debate will rise if the level of democracy increases.</p>
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		<title>Fishkin vs. Hibbing &#8211; do people really want to decide?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following is part of the ongoing research for my master (graduate) thesis. &#8220;Society is like a ship, and everyone must be prepared to take the helm.&#8221; (Henrik Ibsen, An enemy of the people,my translation.) Those of us who hold deliberation (in any form) to be an important prerequisite for informed decision making, would also [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The following is part of the ongoing research for my master (graduate) thesis.</em></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Society is like a ship, and everyone must be prepared to take the helm.&#8221;<br />
(Henrik Ibsen, <em>An enemy of the people,</em>my translation.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Those of us who hold deliberation (in any form) to be an important prerequisite for informed decision making, would also be interested in the topic of how deliberative functions in society can be improved.</p>
<p>James Fishkin has been one of the most quoted political scientists concerned with the topic of deliberation. He&#8217;s a normative scientist, concerned with the benefits that can be reaped from encouraging more democratic debate throughout the population. He has proposed new democratic institutions, such as deliberative opinion polls, or more grandly the thought of a universal &#8220;Deliberation Day&#8221; (Ackerman &amp; Fishkin 2003). But both of these rest on one very important assumption, that  &#8220;[...]most citizens would be glad of the opportunity to play a serious role in important historical events&#8221; (Fishkin 1991:9). And this is an assumption Fishkin seems to take lightly. But is it realistic?<span id="more-201"></span></p>
<p>John R. Hibbing and Elizabeth Theiss-Morse  have done extensive research on what processes American voters actually want. And one of their conclusions is that &#8220;People want to turn political matters over to somebody else because they do not want to be involved themselves[...]&#8220;(Hibbing &amp; Theiss-Morse 2002:85). In general, people want &#8220;ordinary people&#8221; to have more of a say, but they themselves don&#8217;t wish to be involved, and prefer to be left alone (Hibbing &amp; Theiss-Morse 2002:129). They sum this up as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The last thing people want is to be more involved in political decision-making: They do not want to make political decisions themselves; they do not want to provide much input to those who are assigned to make these decisions; and they would rather not know the details of the decision-making process [...]This does not mean that people think no mechanism for government accountability is necessary; they just do not want the mechanism to come into play except in unusual circumstances&#8221; (Hibbing &amp; Theiss-Morse 2002:1-2)</p></blockquote>
<p>People are concerned that they might be taken advantage of by special interest groups and elected officials that reap personal gains at the expense of society. Subsequently they find support for more public involvement to be high when it is presented as the only option to rule by a self-centered elite. But that doesn&#8217;t mean they want to be continually involved. The ideal government is according to the common man one that governs with the best interest of society in mind, but that doesn&#8217;t require much involvement from its citizens &#8211; a non-self-serving elite (Hibbing &amp; Theiss-Morse 2002:130). Interestingly enough, Fishkin (1991:54-55) himself makes a similar point &#8211; that the public doesn&#8217;t seem to have a wish for participating as much as possible in democracy. He cites a survey that quite clearly shows that increases in direct majoritarian control through plebiscite actually seems to reduce the voter turnout and make the public less involved.</p>
<p>This is a challenge to theories of rational behaviour. Given that politics have an impact on our lives, why should we not want to decide as much as possible? One reason may be that we find our own impact on politics to be so little that it doesn&#8217;t justify our own involvement. Spending five hours in political processes won&#8217;t get us five hours&#8217; worth of more favourable outcomes for us personally. And politicians should be very bad indeed to justify in personal gain for you to give up a major part of the life you have chosen for yourself and go into politics full time.</p>
<p>This basic assumption seems to be something many political theorists forget to take into account. Most people are happy leaving decisions to a system they trust. And I believe the kind of systems Fishkin suggest presupposes a high level of trust that your opinions will be taken seriously.  If this is true, what we have to start looking at is how to improve trust in politicians and how to improve the deliberative processes inside the governments we already have.</p>
<p><strong>Sources</strong></p>
<p>Ackerman, Bruce, &amp; James S. Fishkin (2003) &#8220;Deliberation Day&#8221;. In James S. Fishkin &amp; Peter Laslett (Eds.), <em>Debating Deliberative Democracy</em>. Malden: Blackwell, 7-31</p>
<p>Fishkin, James S. (1991) <em>Democracy and Deliberation. New Directions for Democratic Reform</em>, New Haven: Yale University Press.</p>
<p>Hibbing, John R., &amp; Elizabeth Theiss-Morse (2002) <em>Stealth democracy: Americans&#8217; beliefs about how government should work</em>, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.</p>
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		<title>California: Tocqueville&#8217;s nightmare come true</title>
		<link>http://polemarchus.net/2008/11/19/tocquevilles-nightmare/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the euphoria surrounding the presidential election, other events in American politics have been crowded out in media. A darker chapter in American history was written in the presumably liberal state of California. I haven&#8217;t heard many (at least outside the US) discuss this, except a few bloggers &#8211; among them the authors of one [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I<a href="http://polemarchus.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/gayrights.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-182" style="margin-left:4px;margin-right:4px" src="http://polemarchus.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/gayrights.jpg?w=300" alt="gayrights" width="300" height="241" /></a>n the euphoria surrounding the presidential election, other events in American politics have been crowded out in media. A darker chapter in American history was written in the presumably liberal state of California. I haven&#8217;t heard many (at least outside the US) discuss this, except a few bloggers &#8211; among them the authors of one of my favourite blogs, <a href="http://votingwhileintoxicated.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/why-democracy-is-bad/">Voting While Intoxicated</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m of course talking about the amendment to the Californian constitution to ban gay marriage, which was voted for together with the presidential election. For those who might not be familiar with the American political system, this is quite common &#8211; to include propositions to be voted on by the public together with any election. The infamous Proposition 8, named after its number on the ballot, <a href="http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/props/59.htm" class="broken_link">got 52.1 percent of the vote</a>, more than the necessary simple majority for a new state constitution amendment. It reads as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>SEC. 7.5. Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.</p></blockquote>
<p>As a strong supporter of gay rights, this has ruined some of my new found belief in America. But aside from my personal feelings, this is the kind of thing that would make influential political philosopher Alexis de Tocqueville turn in his grave.<span id="more-180"></span></p>
<p>A French aristocrat and scholar, he travelled the young USA studying their democracy with great admiration. In 1835 he published his most famous book, <em>Democracy in America</em> where he analyzed the political culture of this nation that according to him was the greatest example in his time of what government should be in the future.</p>
<p>Even as a liberal in 1835, I doubt Tocqueville was in favour of gay marriage. Why do I then claim that he would turn in his grave now? Because his greatest warning about democracy was what he called &#8220;the tyranny of the majority&#8221;, or the possibility of any small majority trampling the rights of a minority. For example a predominantly heterosexual majority of only 52.1 percent of voters removing a fundamental right for a homosexual minority. Not only refusing to allow new gay marriages, but even removing recognition of previously approved ones.</p>
<p>How could this happen? First of all, the American political systems allows new laws to be passed by plebiscite without approval of representative bodies. This is in itself rather uncommon in modern democracies. Secondly, the Californian constitution allows amendment by simple majority rather than the rather common 2/3 supermajority. Any faction of voters totalling more than 50% can decide almost anything they want.</p>
<p>An interesting fact is that Obama&#8217;s great success seems to have affected the result in favour of the proposition. As reported by <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-gaymarriage6-2008nov06,0,2331815.story">LA Times</a>, there was great support for it in the black population, and Obama&#8217;s campaign made black people vote like never before.</p>
<p>Before I get side tracked too far, I&#8217;ll rein myself back in by concluding that although Tocqueville might not be too much in favour of gay rights, I&#8217;m sure he would &#8211; like me &#8211; be greatly concerned about this blatant display of tyranny by a pretty slim majority.</p>
<p>UPDATE: Some more posts on the topic of California&#8217;s Proposition 8</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>The beat in my head</strong>: &#8220;<a href="http://thebeatinmyhead.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/my-thoughts-on-prop-8/">My thoughts on Prop 8</a>&#8221; &#8211; some interesting thoughts on whether gay marriage really creates any victims, and a scary piece of propaganda</li>
<li><strong>Trust, but verify</strong>: &#8220;<a href="http://trustbutverify.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/california-to-uphold-the-will-of-the-people/">Will California uphold the will of the people</a>&#8221; &#8211; about the legal struggle for overturning the decision in court</li>
<li><strong>The reformed pastor: </strong>&#8220;<a href="http://reformedpastor.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/californians-to-vote-on-gay-marriage/">Californinans to vote on Gay Marriage</a>&#8221; &#8211; a word from the other side, considering the measures to prevent the voting on Proposition 8 &#8220;antidemocratic&#8221;</li>
<li><strong>Good as you: </strong>&#8220;<a href="http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2008/11/frc-why-arent-y.html">FRC: Why aren&#8217;t you being antidemocratic, court basher Arnold?</a>&#8221; &#8211; a word from the proposition 8 supporters and a counterargument.</li>
<li><strong>The kitchen table:</strong> &#8220;<a href="http://princetonprofs.blogspot.com/2008/11/black-folks-and-passage-of-prop-8.html" class="broken_link">Black folks and the passage of prop 8</a>&#8221; &#8211; a comment by Dr. Melissa Harris-Lacewell of Princeton University.</li>
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